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Board Name: England Genealogy
bendigo, vic Australia Sep 21, 2000
I am searching for our roots on my father's side of the family, I know very little about his early life, or were in England he was born, I have triad to put together what little information I have, and have started a search.
Our Mother and Father were married at Saint Mary's Catholic Church, Newcastle upon Tyne, in 1915.
My father died in 1935, at the age of 59, there were six children from the marriage.
The marriage certificate reads.
Richard Albert Davis. Market gardener. Age 40. Father. Thomas Davis. Land Steward. [Deceased]

My father ran away from home when he was about 10 years old.[His father had remarried.] he worked for a time as a barge boy before being taken in by a family. they found him work as an apprentice gardener on Lord Darby's Estate. My oldest sister was named after Aunt Josephine, some one my father had great regard for, it could have been the women of the house were he lived, he also spoke of Elizabeth may have been a sister or one of the children of the family were he lived. I think they lived in a place called Salford. I have searched for Salford throughout England there are 4 that I can find all except one are in central or south west England, the fourth is just south of London. A few years after my parents were married a brother or half brother contacted my father, but I think they meet only the once.
Using the 1881 census CD's, I began a search for Richard Davis. Born between 1870 and 1876. with a Father named Thomas. I searched all English counties except London, the northeast, and the southeast, from the list I removed all those families that had more than three children, this left two possibilities.

One is a family living in Monmouth Wales. Father Thomas. Mother Elizabeth. Daughter Elizabeth aged 15. Son Richard aged 10. Plus a Grand daughter Mabel. Aged 2. [ There must have been older children] Although I am still trying to research this family. It has not the feeling of instability a boy would run away from.
The other family, Thomas Davis is not the Father but the Grandfather. The Grandmother is Caroline, ages 66 and 67. Place East Dean. Gloucestershire the Grandson Richard is 7 years old. [Age 40 in 1915] There is a recorded death of a Thomas Davis. Aged 66 in the same registry district. In early 1882.

I went back to the 1861 census, looking for the family of Thomas and Caroline Davis. And found they had 2 children, Ruben 12. and Louisa. 10. I searched the marriage register 1868-81 the only Ruben Davis. I could find, married in late 1874 in Madeley. Staffordshire. No name of spouse given on the GRO marriage microfiche, but on the GRO birth register microfiche there is a Richard Davis born in mid 1875 at Madeley. Staffordshire [ name of parents is not given on these microfiche]
I could not find any Ruben Davis of the right age, or the child Richard Davis born in Madeley. Staffordshire. In the 1881 census. No recorded deaths 1875-81.
Madeley Staffordshire is close to Newcastle under lyme

There is a Reuben Davis. Aged 30. [The right age group] In the 1881 census married to a Charlotte Davis. Aged 43. 3.Stepsons aged- 19- 15and 12. [Children of Charlotte by a previous marriage] And three children by this marriage aged 4. - 3 and 10 months old. The 4-year-old is a daughter named Louisa. Same name as the sister of Ruben. The above family lives at Cinderford. Very close to the Grandfather and grandmother of 7 year old Richard. [There is no record of the marriage of Reuben and Charlotte Davis.]

For my father to be the son of Rubin or Reuben. I would have to assume he had disassociated himself
from his father. And used the name of his grandfather on the Wedding Certificate. The occupation
Land Steward. Could have been fanciful. both Thomas the grandfather and Reuben were coal miners.
But Land Steward could have been the occupation of the head of the house were he lived in Salford, he may be the one that found my father work as an apprentice gardener, on Lord Darby's Estate.

Salford in Staffordshire. Warickshire. or Oxfordshire. All are close to Canals and Rivers that Barges used.
If I could link working on Barges. Living in Salford, and getting working on Lord Darby's Estates. to one district, it could be of great help. And I am looking for all the help I can get.

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