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jo devenish Hello you busy happy people, please help. Nov 19, 2005
Hi Please, I am searching my family history forward from the dates below which i have already researched

Henry Yates born 1833 (my grandfather)
Matthew Thompson Yates born 1862.
Elizabeth Yates born 1857. Salford
Martha Yates Born 1864. Salford.
Joseph Yates born 1868
Alfred Ernest Yates my father was born 1910 Manchester. Died in Westminster, London 1986.

Matthew Yates married Betsy Jane whelpton.
Children: Bertha Yates born 1891
Constance Yates 1896 Cheshire.
Frank Yates born 1901 Manchester.

Joseph Yates married Cecelia Spence.
Children: Florence Yates 1895 Salford.
Ellen Yates 1899 Salford
Cecelia Yates born 1900 Salford.

Please if you are related to them could you get in touch, thank you Jo xx

My father's death certificate states that he died on 14 May 1986. His last address was Flat 17, 5 Queensborough Terrace, Westminster London W2. He was a retired hotel caretaker.

I do know that Alan and Patricia Hall paid for his burial plot; they lived at 33 Westbourne Terrace W2. They paid for a plot for 2. Was this the usual practice? WHO WERE THE HALLS? He was buried 15 miles away at Epsom My mother and father were never married. I did meet up with my mother 16 years ago in S.Africa but she was unwilling to discuss her past. She has now died of Alzheimer's. I have a gut feeling that I have got relatives on my father's side now living. I have been searching for 45 years and sadly never did meet my father.

The last thing that was recorded about him was in 1947. I have no idea what happened to him between then and 1986. How can a man vanish into thin air??? If there is anyone out there who is willing to give assistance I would be eternally grateful.


Hello, what I am going to write is going to take guts but I will have a go. MY father Alfred Ernest Yates who was born in Manchester in 1910. He was an ace jewel thief. He escaped from many prisons. Walton , Lewes, Dartmoor to name but a few. They called him: THE MAN NO PRISON COULD HOLD. Do any of you older readers or your grandfathers remember him? He was in all the national newspapers under differant names. Mostly Stanley Thurston. To my amazement I found out that a film had been made about his early life he featured as its star, under the name of Charles Stuart his actors name. It was directed by Alfred Goulding at Marylebone Studios. It was called. THE DARK ROAD. A hammer film. On one accasion, during the filming the cast went on strike because they resented his success as an actor and envied the suave handsome appearance that he presented on the screen. The one thing I found was they did not portray the whole facts! most of the true facts i have and would like to revamp the film. In those days they glossed over it. There are lots more I could tell you but it does not get me any nearer to finding out if I have any other relations or even more brothers and sisters who are now living.I have posted a message on the board headed hello you busy happy people today 10.11 05. I hope this may help you to understand me a little more and why I have still not found anybody connected to my father.
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