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Brittanie Wittmer Louisville, Jefferson County, Kentucky (US) May 28, 2006
Sorry to have written a book below, but I figured if anyone was willing to help or could possibly recognize these persons it would be better to give too much info than not enough! Hope my long-windedness doesn’t turn anyone away from my query….

I am seeking information on the family and ancestors of my 3rd great-grandparents, Edward Heverin/Hefferin/Heavrin (b. 1800/1840, prob. 1820/1830) and Rose Unknown (b. 1828/1835). They were known to be in Newry, County Armagh, Ireland on December 8, 1859, when their second son Charles was baptized at the Parish Church of Newry (Catholic). Their first son Edward, my 2nd great-grandfather, was born on December 19, 1858 (location unknown, but presumably also in Newry). Looking for the marriage record of Edward and Rose, any information on their parents and/or Rose’s maiden name (see below paragraphs for possible info on Edward’s parents), baptismal information on Edward and more information on Charles’ baptism, and any directory/census/other information related to these folks.

I do not know any information on Rose before her marriage to Edward Heverin. It is possible Edward’s mother was named Mary (b. abt. and that he had a brother named Hugh (see post-US immigration info below on this possibility), however, it is also very possible Mary and Hugh are not of the same family as Edward. Looking for any and all records that may help me with this information.

Rose Heverin, wife of Edward, and her two children, Edward and Charles, emigrated from Ireland to the U.S. sometime between 1860-1864, Rose being widowed either right before or right after their move. As described below, it is possible Rose and her children went to Tennessee after arriving, but it is definite they were in Louisville, Jefferson County, Kentucky by 1870, Rose then being married to Andrew C. J. Taylor, an Irish Stone Cutter. It is not known whether or not Rose met Andrew before or after her immigration. I would like to find any death/cemetery information on Edward Heverin, and/or emigration records for those I’ve described.

Though I have nothing but circumstantial evidence to support it, I have not been able to rule out that a family found in Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee in 1860 is this same Heverin family. The coincidences are strong, though I have run into coincidences just as strong in the past that were indeed just that.

This family is found in Ward 4 (Dwelling 912, Family 1046) and includes a family grocer, Mary Heverin-Heveran, age 40; Hugh Heverin, Stone Cutter, age 22; Rose Heverin, age 40; Edward Heverin, age 5; and Charles Heverin, age 2. All are noted as being born in Ireland, and, as Charles is only 2, indicates the family immigrated 1858/1860. Mary Heverin, family grocer, is found in the Nashville City Directory in 1859. Mary died in 1869, and Hugh married Mary Cox 1870/1880 and remained in Davidson County. I have not been able to locate any Census records post-1860 of this Rose and her children that would suggest they could not be the same family as Rose Taylor (wife of C. J. Andrew Taylor, a Stone Cutter from Ireland) and Edward & Charles Heverin, found in Jefferson County, Kentucky during and after 1870.

Obviously finding a Rose, Edward, and Charles Heverin in this order, age range, and immigration period is noteworthy. However, the years are off enough from other records to throw a little doubt on a link, though even these other records are inconsistent in themselves. The age listed for this TN Rose is 8-15 years older than Census records of my Rose show (these are very inconsistent though). Later Census records for Edward & Charles variously list immigration year as 1860/1864, and this candidate family is known to have been in Tennessee in 1859 (per above noted Directory). Also, one Heverin researcher (John Worland) has described a baptismal record of my Charles Heverin relative from December 8, 1859 at the Catholic church of Newry, County Armagh, Ireland. Assuming both records are correct concerning dates, this would certainly make it impossible for my Rose and children to have been in Tennessee in 1859..but maybe they could have came after Mary (the only one found in the Nashville city directory), some time between the baptism of Charles in December 1859 and June/September 1860 (official and actual census period)...? Both my Rose and this one were apparently widowed, mine by her husband Edward at some point after Charles' baptism, so perhaps Rose joined her mother-in-law after the death of her husband...?

Other coincidences worth noting are that Hugh Heverin (TN Rose's brother-in-law, possibly the brother of my 2nd great grandfather Edward and 2nd great uncle Charles) and C. J. Andrew Taylor (my Rose's second husband) were both Stone Cutters. I cannot find Andrew in 1860, but perhaps he had not come over yet. Also, my Edward Heverin married Ida May/May Ida Jackson of Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee (father unknown, mother Martha ?). I have not been able to locate Ida May in any Census prior to 1910 and cannot determine how she and Edward may have met...but there is a Jackson family two households from the above Heverins in 1860 Nashville. Jackson is a common name of course, but the Nashville coincidence is interesting in light of all else.

Thanks in advance for any and all assistance.

Brittanie Wittmer
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